tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5089926376300913992.post920347506213189678..comments2024-03-14T12:56:21.674-07:00Comments on Peter Spitzer Music Blog: Coltrane and the "Delta" Symbol for Major Seven Chords, part 1Peter Spitzerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09732697738104648204noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5089926376300913992.post-6606500809108988652017-08-10T16:12:25.608-07:002017-08-10T16:12:25.608-07:00I can't give you Chapter and Verse, but I reme...I can't give you Chapter and Verse, but I remember reading (somewhere!) that Coltrane got the triangle chord symbol from the "legendary" Hasaan Ibn Ali (as heard with Max Roach).Scabrous Little Pighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00001099670264702797noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5089926376300913992.post-5474053027474790492017-05-12T17:02:36.298-07:002017-05-12T17:02:36.298-07:00It were the way that Coltrane thought to improvise...It were the way that Coltrane thought to improvise? All the triade's stuff...Daniel Simonianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02481720130902518246noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5089926376300913992.post-91744399000950579002017-05-12T15:33:03.159-07:002017-05-12T15:33:03.159-07:00I first saw the triangle on handwritten charts fro...I first saw the triangle on handwritten charts from a Nashville guitar player, back in the 70s.Tony Cormanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15996229463085950123noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5089926376300913992.post-37934534351956583712017-05-12T07:55:02.822-07:002017-05-12T07:55:02.822-07:00Thanks, Carlos! Great to hear from you!Thanks, Carlos! Great to hear from you!Peter Spitzerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09732697738104648204noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5089926376300913992.post-46957380493422583142017-05-12T07:34:16.084-07:002017-05-12T07:34:16.084-07:00Hey Peter, nice analysis, take care!Hey Peter, nice analysis, take care!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06161932068210329448noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5089926376300913992.post-11156764709737635082017-05-12T05:08:14.966-07:002017-05-12T05:08:14.966-07:00My experience in Europe was, e.g. CΔ is a triad, a...My experience in Europe was, e.g. CΔ is a triad, and CΔ7 is, well, a 7th chord. Pretty widespread use there. But it's true for myself (as well as others) that I mix up 'maj', 'j', and 'Δ'when writing quickly. I shouldn't. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00066916526171198883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5089926376300913992.post-25281655048441529902017-05-11T21:23:49.003-07:002017-05-11T21:23:49.003-07:00Thanks, A.Y. - That explains the massive amount of...Thanks, A.Y. - That explains the massive amount of page views today. I was wondering. Glad that so many people have found it interesting. The composer credit on the "Lady Bird" chart looks like it might be in Dameron's hand. However, the music in the chart doesn't look like the style of the other Tadd charts in the auction...so I don't know.Peter Spitzerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09732697738104648204noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5089926376300913992.post-42783749693484003602017-05-11T18:24:26.870-07:002017-05-11T18:24:26.870-07:00maybe you could find someone still alive who went ...maybe you could find someone still alive who went thru the ornstien<br />music school in philly in the forties, like trane, and ask how<br />they were taught to write major 7th chords....wognoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5089926376300913992.post-46936546225294014192017-05-11T16:19:50.570-07:002017-05-11T16:19:50.570-07:00The Dreamer chart appears to be the trumpet part (...The Dreamer chart appears to be the trumpet part (our at least the lead harmony at the end)... Perhaps the chart was copied for the trumpet player in the recording to read (Wilbur Harden?), but hten they copied the changes in concert for whatever reason.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5089926376300913992.post-75566854632582964882017-05-11T14:13:04.894-07:002017-05-11T14:13:04.894-07:00This blog post is getting some traction because it...This blog post is getting some traction because it was shared by the Coltrane Facebook page. From the time I've spent looking at reproductions of Coltrane-manuscript charts, I'd say that "Lady Bird" is definitely not in his hand. The notation is entirely uncharacteristic of him and the lettering is different too.A. Y. Heislerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04920513809134286920noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5089926376300913992.post-48245455021059972712017-05-11T13:02:26.599-07:002017-05-11T13:02:26.599-07:00I think I've seen the delta used as symbol for...I think I've seen the delta used as symbol for simple triads. This would be more direct: 3 = 3edownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14557826604163244034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5089926376300913992.post-36117918030077471802017-05-11T13:01:14.643-07:002017-05-11T13:01:14.643-07:00I think I've seen the delta symbol written for...I think I've seen the delta symbol written for simple triads. That would make more sense. 3 = 3.edownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14557826604163244034noreply@blogger.com